We Always Have a Choice

Over time we have been preconditioned to believe that we no longer have choices.

In our life, in our relationships, with our careers. But there is a simple fact that contradicts this belief.

A universal Law that cannot be altered or changed, and that is we do have a choice.

In every moment. The big question is why are we not making the right choices, to live a happy and healthy life?

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Andrew Hackett: Today is the day you have to take action on something so that you can thank yourself for it tomorrow, and that's a really, really important thing to understand. We are making these choices to not do things and then... What do they say? It's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result. So we've got to stop doing this. If we actually want real change in our life, we have to get off our bums and change it.

G'day, and welcome to Illimitable Living. I'm Andrew Hackett and I'm here to talk about living a life free from fears, restrictive boundaries, so that you can not only live a limitless life but so that you can become truly illimitable. 

I'm here in sunny Australia talking with my remarkable co-host, Patricia Morris, as we take you on a journey delving deep into the mysteries of the universe and how we live within it. Join me on a journey towards living a truly limitless life on the Illimitable Living Podcast.

G'day everyone. Welcome to Illimitable Living, and we're chatting here with Patricia Morris, my remarkable friend from America. G'day, Patricia. How are you doing?

Patricia Morris: Hey, g'day everybody. I am doing wonderful. Thank you for asking, Andrew.

Andrew Hackett: You're welcome. So tell me, what is it you wanted to chat about today?

Patricia Morris: I've been thinking a lot about this subject and it has been coming up a lot in my own life, and colleagues' lives of mine, and that is, when we're limiting ourselves as far as the choices we make in life, sometimes we feel like we're stuck in a certain situation, or sometimes we feel like we don't have a choice when it comes to something, and for me, what I've been able to perceive or see from that is that it kind of puts people in a place of being stuck, or it puts them into feeling like they're tied into a certain belief system that no longer subscribe to but they feel like they're forced to stay there. I mean, I see this unfolding in so many ways lately and I just wanted to discuss that a little bit more in-depth with our listeners and with you this week.

Andrew Hackett: Love it, love it. Absolutely fabulous. Look, you know what? This is fantastic. I've also been getting a lot of conversations, synchronistic events lately as well from a whole range of different people, clients, family friends, about this whole statement they keep seem to be making, that seems to be quite consistent. They go, "Oh no, I don't have a choice," or they feel they don't have a choice, or they are led to believe they don't have a choice about making change in their life, and I find that a fascinating aspect of the human condition because ultimately speaking, in my belief, we always have a choice. Every single one of us has a choice. Yes, there are consequences to that choice. Every choice we make has a consequence and we can't avoid that, that is universal law. That's just the way it is, that's part of physical life living. Just because there's a consequence to the choice doesn't mean we don't actually have a choice to make. In fact, as I always say as well, even when we're not making a choice, we are making a choice to not make a choice.

Patricia Morris: That sounds like an awesome meme!

Andrew Hackett: Yes, sure, absolutely. And see, this is the interesting thing as well. We've got to understand that everything that happens in our life is actually based on-

Patricia Morris: Choice.

Andrew Hackett: ... the choices that we make. Correct. That's right. Every single thing. This is why I talk about the love and fear dichotomy so readily, is because in every moment... every moment we have, we have a choice to make. Now that moment may last a second, it may last a minute, it may last an hour, it may even last days, but we still have a choice to make in any moment, and depending on how we make that choice, what we construct that choice of, e.g. whether we construct it of fear or whether we construct it of love, not only does the choice feel better or worse, but the outcomes, the consequences of that choice are also affected by the construction of that choice as well.

So this whole we don't have a choice business, people all the time... Because with the work that I do with people ultimately is not just to get them out of their fear-driven state, but it's to get them to creating a life that they've always desired because we all have a right to live the life we desire to live, it's just we've been taught over a very long period of time that we no longer have a choice. We have a particular lot in life, that's our lot in life, you can't change your stars. If you're born poor, you're supposed to die poor. 

But the simple fact of the matter remains is that we have so much evidence around us of people changing their stars, even older people changing their stars. This is the funny thing. I hear so many people saying to me, "Oh, I'm 65, I can't change now," or, "I can't make the changes I want," blah, blah, blah, and I say to them all the time, "Well, Colonel Sanders started the process of trying to set up Kentucky Fried Chicken when he was 65." There are so many examples of people changing their stars. I mean, we look at Tony Robbins nowadays. I mean, everybody knows Tony and everybody knows Tony's story.

Patricia Morris: Oh, yeah. And even Wayne Dyer's story, right.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. That's right. Okay. So two great examples. So Tony was kicked out of his house when he was 17 by his mother and he had to fend for himself, basically. Wayne Dyer, he grew up in an orphanage after his father left and his mother couldn't cope and stuff, and she put him in an orphanage. And ultimately speaking, they now see those moments as the greatest catalyst that brought them to where they are now, but there's so many examples of it all over the world, of people that have come from nothing and made something out of themselves. So many examples of people who have gone their entire life living perhaps a life that they felt was without meaning, that wasn't living their dream or doing other things, suddenly living their dream later on in life because they've finally found the right person to help them, or the right mindset to move them forward.

Patricia Morris: Or to move above the fear, or to not limit themselves anymore.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. That's exactly right. And this is why I talk about choice is so important, and why we always have choice. And look, I've been in this situation before as well. We make decisions when we're in our late teens, early twenties, like getting married for instance, and then suddenly we get to later in life and we suddenly realize, oh my God, I've been unhappy for five years, or 10 years, or whatever it is. And I say to people all the time, "I seriously honor your commitment to the vows that you gave. I seriously honor the commitment to the person that you gave them to, but if both people in the relationship are unhappy, then surely there is a choice to be made there, and ultimately speaking, we deserve to be happy." 

And look, I had to make that choice once upon a time and it was hard work. It almost destroyed me, but having said that, I'm now happier with my new partner. My ex-wife is now happier with her new partner. She's off and doing everything that she wanted to do that she felt she couldn't do while she was in a relationship with me, and vice versa. 

So we all have these opportunities to make choices but we don't make them because we feel like we don't have a choice. And the most common choices I believe people feel like they don't have is they want a different career or a different job, and they go, "I couldn't possibly start a career now," or, "I can't leave my current job. I've been doing this for 20 years. Nobody else will hire me." Or people that live in a particular climate, and they hate where they live, but they say, "But I've got to live here because that's where the kids go to school," and I say to them all the time, "The kids don't go to school because of that's where you live. The kids go to school based on where you live." Sorry, I said that the wrong way round. "You live where you live and the kids go to the nearest or the best school that you've got locally. If you change where you live, the kids will find another school that will also work for them." 

It's the same with our jobs. We often find a job to suit where we're living rather than live where the job is best suited for us, or the best type of job that we have for us, and it's completely backwards because we spend most of the time, excluding sleep, of course, because we're unconscious and we don't know really what's going on, we spend most of our time in the office than we do... on the job than we do actually in our own home, and the challenge with that is, if we're really unhappy in our job, what's going to happen when we go home? We're going to be unhappy too. 

Patricia Morris: Oh, yeah.

Andrew Hackett: And I say to people all the time, "Well, we've got to start thinking outside this box that you're in because you are doing an unhappy job, commuting back and forth unhappily to your unhappy job, to sit in a cubicle all day, to go home to pay the mortgage on the house that you only bought because it's kind of near where you work, and your kids go to school because it's kind of near where you live. And if you actually just stopped and thought outside the square a little bit and actually put a bit of a strategy behind all of this, you could find a new job, find a new place to live, the kids could find a new school, and everybody could be happier with perhaps a simpler life. Maybe a busier life, depending on whatever it is you're actually searching for." But the choice is always there. Just because we say we don't have a choice doesn't mean the choice disappears. You still have a choice, you're just ignoring the fact that you have a choice, and I'm not saying the choice is easy either.

Patricia Morris: Yeah, definitely.

Andrew Hackett: I'm not saying it's easy. Change can be difficult for a lot of people, but it can also be the most extraordinary thing you'll ever experience as well.

Patricia Morris: Yeah. I have a question for you on that then. I'm going to pick your brain if that's okay.

Andrew Hackett: Of course.

Patricia Morris: So here in the United States, we don't have universal healthcare. I don't know if they have that in Australia or not.

Andrew Hackett: We do, we're very lucky with that, yes, correct.

Patricia Morris: Oh, you are very lucky with that.

Andrew Hackett: Very lucky.

Patricia Morris: I wish we had that here. Oh boy, I wish we had that here because healthcare costs are outrageous here, and for a lot of Americans, we have to stay in a job that offers us at least decent healthcare coverage because we don't have that socialized medicine here. So for instance, my husband got in his current job when they were offering his healthcare for free, so we actually don't pay anything for our healthcare. That is unheard of nowadays. There are families who spend thousands of dollars a month just on the premiums alone for insurance. And because I have health issues, and the same with my husband, it's not been as easy for us to just pack up and leave if we wanted to, as much as I would want to live in a warmer climate. 

Here in the United States, because families have to stay with the job where they can afford the healthcare coverage or it's offering what they need for their family in that moment in time, and there's so many different dynamics that come into play, what would you say to something like that? Because I know I'm probably just blocking myself by coming from that angle of thinking, oh, well, we're forced to stay here.

Andrew Hackett: Sure. Okay. I do have an answer to that and I hate to say it, it probably might become a little controversial, but I'm going to put it out there because it is something I-

Patricia Morris: Ooh, this is going to be juicy then! I'm excited.

Andrew Hackett: ... I strongly believe. Yeah, yeah, very good. Okay. So, yes, I understand the situation you're in, and I certainly cannot from an experiential point of view understand the whole not having universal healthcare. I grew up with universal healthcare. Now I also have private health insurance because in Australia, although the public system is very, very good, sometimes there can be a waiting time and if my or my children wanted or need to get something done, we want to be able to choose our own doctors, we want to be able to choose the way that our treatment happens and all that sort of stuff. So that's important to us. And not everybody has that option, so to speak. 

The health aspect is more than just do I have healthcare cover or not. Good health, or health issues are contributed to by a whole range of different things. For instance, a lot of medical doctors are not taught about the influence of diet on our health conditions. What you are putting into your body is directly influencing the way your body operates. There is no argument to be had with that.

Patricia Morris: Oh, absolutely.

Andrew Hackett: I would beg anybody to pick that fight because I'll happily shut them down. But the thing is, we end up in a situation... this is where it comes back to choice again. Too many people, I say to them, "Well, you need to start eating healthier. You need to get out and do some more exercise." I do a lot of work with people in regards to the benefits of walking, for instance, both for their physical health and also their mental health, but also for their spiritual health. You know my work, Patricia. You know I work with a holistic approach: mind, body and spirit, and it's really, really important. 

But good health comes down to good choices. Now, if we are eating our food out of pre-packaged products, we are not making healthy choices. That has been fundamentally proven too many times for it to be ignored. If it comes in a packet, or if it's pre-organized and all that sort of stuff, it has very likely got a whole range of different chemicals in it, a whole range of different-

Patricia Morris: Oh, it's crap.

Andrew Hackett: Correct, that's exactly right. Fabulous. I'm glad you agree.

Patricia Morris: Mm-hmm (affirmative). I do.

Andrew Hackett: But it also comes down to a whole range of things. So this is something I've had to learn and to struggle with myself because I can also make choices of being lazy as well. I understand the benefits of good, whole foods, good green salads, good vegetables, both whether it's leafy green vegetables and the like, or whether it's more root-based vegetables. Winter I tend more towards root-based vegetables but that's part of my Celtic history, and also the fact that that's kind of what my particular body needs, because different bodies need different things, depending on... call it your hereditary train or whatever-

Patricia Morris: DNA stuff, yeah.

Andrew Hackett: Thank you very much. And then when I come into summer, I tend more towards eating salads and all that sort of stuff. I also eat meat because the protein aspect, and I know you can get protein from non meat based products as well, and I do, but I also, every now and then, for instance, eat rubbish, or I might drink alcohol, or I might go to McDonald's or other fast food type of joints and eat their food. They're all choices, and until we start making positive choices we cannot expect positive outcomes. 

Now, when it comes down to health, there is a lot of evidence out there, and in my opinion, far too much to either be ignored or for anybody to convince me otherwise, that what we are consuming is directly leading to our health issues over time, and if we fundamentally change what we are consuming, and we start making positive choices associated with the type of food... So, for instance, I stopped buying fruit and vegetables from the local supermarket chain. We've got a couple of big supermarket chains in Australia and I stopped buying my vegetables from them because I'm well aware of the fact that they're not organic and that, in fact, they really weren't helping me. 

In the same way, my meat based products, I buy meat based products predominantly directly from the farmer now, and I buy them from farmers that I know how they're treated, how they're also humanely killed, and also what sort of preservatives and stuff are used, if any at all. Look, now the choice I make with that has a consequence. One, it takes me more time to source my food. In the past, for many years, in fact, I've also grown my own food. I can't do that in my current house at the moment because I haven't got it organized yet, but I will. But the point being is, again, it's a choice. So it takes me longer to source my food, it takes me more time. It also costs me more money to source my food.

Patricia Morris: It does.

Andrew Hackett: All right. But that's the consequence of my choice. Now, the positive consequence of that choice is my health has improved, I've lost weight. I changed my diet fundamentally. I realized that things like bread, for instance, weren't working for me and in fact were bloating me. I realized that alcohol really isn't working for me, not that I haven't known that for 25 years, but, again, for a large part of that 25 years I thought I didn't have a choice. I thought I needed alcohol to switch off at the end of the day. But, of course, you drink alcohol regularly, on a daily basis, it will slowly impact your health because the human body actually isn't designed to deal with regular intakes of alcohol.

Patricia Morris: No, it's not.

Andrew Hackett: Despite in our early twenties we think it is. In fact, we think it gives us superpowers.

Patricia Morris: Right.

Andrew Hackett: But it really doesn't, trust me. When you start getting into your forties and into your fifties and everything like that, you start to realize alcohol doesn't give you superpowers. In fact, it switches you off. But you can understand where I'm going here. 

Look, yes, I understand your issue is with universal healthcare and the older we get the bigger the challenge is with that, and I don't want to in any way say that having a universal thing is not advantageous, it is. We've got a lot of people in Australia that have access to healthcare and that that same type of demographic doesn't have access to healthcare in the U.S. So look, personally, I'm a massive advocate for universal healthcare and-

Patricia Morris: Same here.

Andrew Hackett: ... in any country, for that matter. I don't want to make it a political discussion, it's just the simple fact that I believe everybody has the right to have access to healthcare because I think we all should be treated equally and that's-

Patricia Morris: Amen. Amen. It doesn't matter what socioeconomic background you come from-

Andrew Hackett: That's correct.

Patricia Morris: ... we all have that basic right.

Andrew Hackett: Yeah. And unfortunately, also, having access to chemical free or organic foods has also become an expensive market to play in because it is cheaper for the producers to produce chemical based food that also looks the part and plays the part. The trouble is is, over a period of time, when we consume this over quite a period of time, our guts change and we can then suffer from certain things like leaky gut and other sorts of things which what that actually ultimately means is our bodies no longer process the good food we are eating and extract the good nutrients out of it as readily as we once did when we were younger. Now the only way we can change that is by physically changing our diet and changing the choices we are making in accordance with that. What comes as a result of that is better health. 

Now, there is a lot of evidence out there. There are also some, as we say, shortcuts that you can take to get yourself started towards that process and I am happy to help. If people want to reach out to me on... and send me an email, to Andrew at andrewhackett.com.au. I'm happy to have that discussion with them, I don't have an issue with that, because really I want everybody to have the opportunity. And the products that I'm particularly referring to are available throughout most of the world, but they're not available in every single country just yet because, of course, they need approvals, and these are medical breakthroughs that have happened over a period of time. 

But the point being is, we need to start making these positive choices. We do have a choice in every single moment. If you are in a relationship that is domestically violent, whether it's physical or mental or sexual, sexually violent, I understand completely how you feel like you don't have a choice. I completely understand that. I am not trying to downgrade the situation or take away the severity or the complexity or the fear based aspect to it, I'm telling you that now. I do a lot of work with people in these sorts of situations. 

But the simple fact remains, whether we choose to accept it or not, is that there is a choice to be made and yes, that choice has consequences. Sometimes those consequences carry risks and sometimes those risks can be awful or catastrophic, I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying that done with the right approach, with the right type of help, with the right type of, call it services, community groups, maybe even church based groups, all these sorts of stuff, there is things out there that we can tap into in different countries and stuff that can help us get out of situations like that. In Australia we have phone numbers like Lifeline and various other sorts of things that people can call if they need to talk to someone about how to get out of those situations, and, again, I implore anybody that are in those type of situations and they feel like they don't have a choice, to actually reach out to someone that they know and trust to help them with that situation.

But just because the situation is terrible and extraordinarily fearful, possibly even violent, it doesn't mean there isn't a choice. All that means is that there's likely to be a higher chance that we believe we don't have a choice, it doesn't actually make the choice go away.

Patricia Morris: Right. Because you're still making the choice if you decide to stay or whatever-

Andrew Hackett: Correct.

Patricia Morris: ... choice you make. Right, that makes sense.

Andrew Hackett: We all justify our choices.

Patricia Morris: Absolutely.

Andrew Hackett: The pedophile justifies their choices as entitlement or consent, actually. Sorry, consent.

Patricia Morris: Or nothing wrong with it, or whatever. Right.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. That's exactly right. That's right. The rapist justifies their choices as entitlement, as does the white collar worker who steals money or embezzles money from the business: "Well, I deserve this money." We all justify our choices in the same way we say, "I don't have a choice because of the situation that I'm in."

Patricia Morris: Right, right.

Andrew Hackett: It's part of the human condition.

Patricia Morris: It is. And I want to thank you for that explanation because I had an ah-hah moment while you were speaking about our food because initially, some of the health challenges I have are ones that I was born with that actually came from when I was in utero. So initially what came to my mind was, well, food wouldn't have solved that because this is what I was born with, and same with my husband. He has this rare hereditary disease that he inherited from his mother. But when you were speaking about food then it just... had a light bulb go off in my mind of, I was just doing that popular ketogenic diet because I had been reading about all the health benefits that it can have for people who have specific health issues, and I did notice that it helped me with a lot of those issues, and even ones that I had been born with, meaning... Well, I don't even know if ADHD is considered one that you're born with or not but I do have ADD and that drastically helped my symptoms with ADD. 

But I thought about that and I thought, oh, well, keto also helps with epilepsy and there are children who are born with epilepsy and they have that in their brain and so a ketogenic diet for them actually makes it so they can get rid of their medication or drastically minimize their medication. So then I had that ah-hah moment of, well, he's right then because we may have hereditary issues that we didn't create because of food choices but food choices can either help those issues or eliminate them altogether.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. And look, I love your example of the ADHD because a lot of us see psychological, call them conditions, or challenges, whatever the appropriate term is, they see them as being devoid of the physical body aspect because they're part of that mental body aspect, but there is heaps of evidence out there, particularly with ADHD, particularly with autism, that diet can fundamentally change it, if not, in fact, even stop it from happening. And one very simple example. Red food coloring. I think it's the food coloring number we use in Australia called-

Patricia Morris: Oh, that is poison.

Andrew Hackett: ... 104. Right, that's right. It used to make me completely barmy, completely hyperactive as a child, and even as an adult, if I'm daft enough, it will do the same. Again, there is a lot of examples of autistic children, of varying degrees, benefiting extraordinarily so by fundamentally changing their diet, and their behaviors change, remarkably so. There's a lot of these questions about why suddenly is autism, particularly things like Asperger's and even other types of autism based conditions so predominant in today's society? Is it because we've not got an effective label so we can label it, so it's easily identifiable? Or is it because what we are consuming, the lifestyles that we are leading is increasing these rates that are happening? The amount of chemicals-

Patricia Morris: We are.

Andrew Hackett: ... that are in our food, the amount of pre-packaged food, the amount of pre-cooked food. I mean, a lot of people don't realize how much of the food that they're eating nowadays is actually, in fact, pre-cooked, and then just heated up before it's put on the restaurant table.

Patricia Morris: Pre-cooked and then preservatives and all kinds of chemicals added to keep it in a state that's-

Andrew Hackett: Absolutely.

Patricia Morris: ... "fresh." It's not fresh.

Andrew Hackett: I've always enjoyed cheese although I realized years ago that dairy is another choice of mine that doesn't help me. I used to drink a lot of milk as a teenager and as a child. I love my cheese. I can't get enough of my cheese, but too much of it upsets my tummy. It then might bloat me, it then makes me feel sick, all this sort of stuff. I would have a lot of shredded cheese, pre-packaged shredded cheese, but of course, the amount of chemicals that is in shredded cheese to stop it from going moldy is off the charts. People have no idea. So then I had to stop buying shredded cheese and then buy blocks of cheese and shred it myself to the amount that I needed and stuff like that. Now, of course, the irony of this is of course, I shouldn't be eating cheese at all because too much of it upsets my tummy but, again, it comes down to choice. I'm making a choice to eat it and therefore the consequences that come from that choice I have to deal with.

It's just the same with a lot of other people. Bread seems to be a very large thing in people's diets that isn't working for them anymore and a lot of people say the human body itself physiologically has not evolved anywhere near the same rate that our ability to create new foods and new industries. We weren't eating grain based foods that long ago, it's only more recently in humans' development and everything like that, but our bodies haven't caught up with that. In the same way of drinking cow's milk.

Patricia Morris: Right. And even the grains that are produced today have been genetically modified so much that they don't resemble what was even available 100 years ago. So our bodies aren't even processing it the same way that they did back then.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. And genetically modified crops are sprayed with glyphosate or the Roundup, and that's ending up in our food. There's been lots of reports on even things like, to use a very crude example, Froot Loops, or Cornflakes, and things like that, how much glyphosate are actually in some of those foods, with the testing that's done. So ultimately speaking, we're eating these poisons and we're wondering why our bodies aren't necessarily behaving the way that they should do. 

A good holistic wellness practitioner with experience in diet and nutrition and natropathy, or naturopathy, depending on which country you live in and how it's pronounced, they will be able to put together a series of tests and steps that can help you with diet to change your diet that will then give you benefits.

Patricia Morris: Yeah. Makes sense.

Andrew Hackett: So, again, it comes down to choice. For years I thought, but I can't grow my own food where I am now because I haven't made the choice to go and create vegetable beds to grow my food like I did at the farm, and again, when I make that choice it'll happen, but... So I sit back and go, what choice do I have? I've got to go the big supermarket chains to buy it. When you live in a city, for instance, you don't have a choice because you don't have the space to create your own food, let alone grow your own meat and all that sort of stuff, but there are opportunities. Now, yes, sometimes those opportunities also cost money, I get that, and I know that the argument and the benefits associated to the people that don't have as much money as others is definitely hampered. I will agree to that, absolutely. But the choice is still ours to make, and the consequences of those choices are only ours to take on board because we don't have a choice, consequences will happen no matter what we do.

Patricia Morris: That's right. And one thing too that I when I think about choices, at least in my own life, I'm just speaking from experience in my own life, when we feel like we're stuck in a situation and we choose to stay in that situation and then years down the road we'll look back, when we finally leave that situation, and think why didn't I do this back then? Why did I waste all these years? You have all these regrets, all of these what ifs that play through your mind. So, for me, I have learned that if something is going on that I can't fix, then just leave the situation or improve it or change it or make the choice to do something about it because then you're just torturing yourself for years and years and years because you didn't want to make a choice at that moment in time that would change that situation. 

So you can save yourself years of heartache, years of regret, and what many might perceive as wasted time. I don't believe there's wasted time in my personal belief system, but some people perceive it that way, and the fact of the matter is, you just have all of these regrets that you could have saved yourself had you made different choices. Does that make sense?

Andrew Hackett: It makes a lot of sense, absolutely. It does. And look, I say to people all the time that, "Today is the day you have to take action on something so that you can thank yourself for it tomorrow." And that's a really, really important thing to understand. We are making these choices to not do things and then... What do they say? It's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result.

Patricia Morris: Right. Exactly.

Andrew Hackett: So we've got to stop doing this. If we actually want real change in our life, we have to get off our bums and change it, and we will thank ourselves for that tomorrow. It's really important for us. Look, it's like anything, it takes energy, it takes work, and when we're feeling tired all of the time and we're stressed all of the time, and we're reaching for the easy to prepare meal so it's quick and easy and we can just get some food into us so that then we can go and sit in front of the TV before we go off to bed, we've got to understand that all of these choices are symptomatic of each other, and until you break the cycle and start making what I call constructive, conscious choices that... nothing's going to change. And I know people feel like they don't have a choice in a lot of circumstances and I would like to remind you that you in fact do have a choice. We all have choices. What we can't see is what the choice is in a lot of circumstances.

Patricia Morris: Yes. And sometimes you have to look back in retrospect and then see all of that but have faith in that moment that one day you will be able to see that, or maybe if you can't see it even in the future, that it's all playing out the way it needs to.

Andrew Hackett: Absolutely. And look, like you said, everything happens for a reason. You don't believe in wasted time. I, myself, for years struggled with why didn't I have the realization that I had, I don't know, over a decade ago? Why didn't I have that realization three decades ago, and then stop myself going through all of the pain and the suffering, living with my head in the bottom of a bottle for that 20 odd years, and for me, I didn't drink... I mean, putting aside the addiction aspect of alcohol and various other substances, I didn't drink because I enjoyed drinking. I drank to forget, to switch off, to get away from the guilt and the shame. Once I dealt with the guilt and the shame, I no longer needed to drink. So-

Patricia Morris: Yes. That trigger was no longer there, right.

Andrew Hackett: Correct. That's exactly right. So, again, it all comes down to choices, but ultimately every single choice that I have ever made, including the one that led me to be abused... and although it wasn't my choice to be abused, I made a choice to put me in a situation that then created a set of events that led to it. Either way, no matter how I look at it, it still brought me to where I am today. It still enables me to now help people through these situations with the knowledge that I have gained through it, through the processes that I've developed, the tools that I've gotten together, the education platforms, all this sort of stuff, so that I can help people, and to me, then that makes all of that heartache, all of that difficult time, all of those challenges, those lessons and everything like that absolutely worth it. 

So I fully agree with you. I don't believe in wasted time. I believe that everything is played out just the way it was intended to play out to bring us to where we need to get to. The question is, when we get there do we have the courage to actually take the horse by the reins and go for it or do we say to ourselves oh, no, I really don't have a choice in the matter, this choice isn't real. It's just something we need to think very, very long and hard about.

Patricia Morris: Beautiful. I am nodding emphatically over here. You can't see me doing it, but I'm doing it.

Andrew Hackett: Fabulous. So, again, look, I know life sometimes throws us some curved balls. I know we feel like we don't have choices, but please understand, you do have a choice, and if someone wants to book some time with me and stuff to talk through the choices and so we can actually explore things... It's one thing that my professional career as a commercial management consultant always did very well for me is, I could think outside the square like nobody else could. I could see opportunities and things that nobody else could. It's just some sort of thing that I've always been able to do, and if anybody ever wants to book some time with me and we can talk through all of this to try and figure out what your choices are, I'm happy to do that because if it just leads you to that point where you can start to make the change in your life that you need, well then that's why I'm here, is to help you do that. 

Patricia Morris: Yeah. And here's a prime example of that because he gave me my ah-hah moment, so... because I was-

Andrew Hackett: Fabulous.

Patricia Morris: Because I was stuck in that mindset too, like I mentioned earlier, about I was born with this, and my husband was born with that, and then... yeah. So that's a prime example of what you're talking about right there, of how you can help people.

Andrew Hackett: Thank you.

Patricia Morris: You're welcome.

Andrew Hackett: Thank you.

Well, thank you everybody for listening this week. It's been an absolute pleasure. And thank you very much, Patricia. What a great subject choice. I loved this. And look, your choice of the subject choice led us to talk about choice so that's fabulous. I like the way that came around.

Patricia Morris: Wait, wait, wait, say that again! I love it.

Andrew Hackett: I said, your choice of subject choice led us to talk about choice.

Patricia Morris: Oh, that's beautiful. I love it. Okay, you're going to have to message that to me because I love that. I don't think it will stick in my brain right now but I love it. That's perfect. Thank you.

Andrew Hackett: You're very welcome.

Anyway, everybody have a fabulous week and Patricia and I will talk to you again next week.

Patricia Morris: Thank you everybody. Goodbye.

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